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Just a personal idea/proposal

please don't be aggressive if I've done something wrong

Daniele
(for non-Italians, in the picture a typical Italian salami whose name corresponds to the English cup, in Italian "coppa")

First of all I apologize to Mitaka who wanted to interrupt the discussion, but I had already written everything and trashing all bothered me and I apologize for opening another post, but the other had already messed up and my idea would have been lost in the various question and answer rather annoyed; maybe it was better(?):D

My idea is:

Winner of each league qualified for the champions cup;
play-off between the runners-up of each league to have a second team in the top international tournament; the play-off match should follow a criterion linked to the league ranking (average GIFA league team ranking?) so there will be a match 1-8 2-7 3-6 4-5. In this way we partly move towards the concept expressed by Diabolik of rewarding stronger teams that would be penalized by playing in more competitive leagues; play-off losers in the Medalists cup.

By increasing the number of participants in the champions cup I would eliminate (as now happens in Europe) the tournament of the winners of the national cup, at the end many of those would already be in the champions cup, few would remain in the cup winners tournament, which, instead, I would qualify for the medalists cup

Medalist cup: for each league 1 qualified every 30 active teams (with at least 3 months of registration and with last access to the Goleada website for no more than 1 month) with rounding down, at least one qualified per league, plus the national cup winner or if already qualified, the further best placed. Another 4 teams qualified from the play-offs among the eight best unqualified, one per league, always according to league ranking with a combination of 1-8 2-7 3-6 4-5. For example at present, but I'm not sure of the number of active teams, Italy 3 + 1 (NCW) rest of the world 1 + 1 (NCW) plus the 4 losers champions cup play-offs and the 4 winners medalists cup play-offs

New international cup: slots assigned following only the criterion of the number of active teams per league. 1 qualified for every 10 teams per league (rounded down) minimum 2 teams per league. For example currently Italy 10, other leagues 2. In my opinion the teams relegated directly (not through play-out) from the national top division should not be entitled to a place in international competitions, to the advantage of the teams participating in the second division championship, in case of more eligible teams, the number of points and goal difference will be looked at

Obviously, each cup will have a different criteria for awarding glory points, but this is Mitaka's job

Instead, I would leave the Italian national league as it is, its splitting would flatten its level to that of the others with three / four/five strong teams per league and then nothing or almost nothing; not to mention the splitting, even only regarding the second division, by geographical criteria, so we would have the same problems within the Italian nation that are now general issues, with regions with five strong teams and others with half or just one strong team, if all goes well

Comments

Diabolik67 (17:34, 8 JAN)
... allora , sono costretto a ripetermi ... soluzioni ce ne sono a milioni e tutte affascinanti ... l'unica che evitiamo è quella piu semplice ... 7 leghe per circa 200 squadre attive o quasi , ed una lega con 200 squadre attive o quasi ... questi sono i dati di goleada ... per evitare una champions come quella di questa stagione , con pochi intimi, dove le andiamo a prendere le squadre per allargare la partecipazione ? se non tutte almeno la maggior parte da dove volete tirarle fuori ? ... e ripeto ancora , non è un discorso di bandiera ... è la realtà dei dati ... abbiamo un neo iscritto che andrà in competizioni internazionali con un GIFA rank base (1000) ed aptul a casa con i suoi Rossoblu ... se la si smette di porre come scusa questa o quella comunità , la risposta è semplice ed evidente ... ce la forniscono i dati ... tutto il resto è affascinante ma non risolve nulla ...
Mod- Michael Mouse (17:52, 8 JAN)
i like it.
Daniele (18:00, 8 JAN)
Thanks Micheal, I'm glad I thought something that could be interesting, but I think Mitaka is really disappointed and he won't consider any proposal anymore :-\ . . . or you've just said you like the salami? :D (thinking)
Daniele (18:01, 8 JAN)
Michael, sorry typed wrong
Mod- Michael Mouse (18:03, 8 JAN)
proposal = brilliant
salami = ok (i prefer spanish chorizo, sorry, put chorizo on a pizza and you will understand what i mean)
Mod- Michael Mouse (18:13, 8 JAN)
i am used to people getting my name wrong, when i was at school my teacher spelt it wrong for an entire year.
it doesn't help that my last name is campbell (the p is silent so everyone misses it out)
Daniele (18:14, 8 JAN)
mmmhhh . . . I don't know, I prefer Parma's or San Daniele's prosciutto (ham) on pizza, but of course personal opinion . . . anyway, now I'm hungry :D
Marvelmouse (18:16, 8 JAN)
I'm here only for salami (capocollo di Martina Franca please :))
Harrissonsml (19:44, 8 JAN)
Rossoblu wouldnt be on a international competition, even that he was on diabolik place, because of Basarabia :)
Harrissonsml (19:48, 8 JAN)
Or he could be on 3 and take off someone elses spot on CE or BLK...
Diabolik67 (20:11, 8 JAN)

we are over 107 active users, Harrissonsml ... I understand that it may be difficult for you to understand this, but after the aptul team exists in the ranking, for the place that belongs to the Italian league, the bonnot band of maxstirner and others if needed. .. if I were to win 2 championships I would never want the possibility of you finishing second to be taken away, not to participate in the championships simply because I have different teams ... maybe this is the difference of how we would both want to goleada ... and if Cris had won in romania and participated in champions with Airplanes? aptul has chosen, like me and like you, to have more teams, and he knows very well like us, that he could be forced to choose and not be able to participate ... the others do not ... if Brazil has 2 or 3 medalist places, 2 or 3 teams must go ... not 1 alone because Leon has chosen to have 4 teams around the world ... I hope I was clear ...
Aptul (20:39, 8 JAN)
Harri, here you are wrong. Basarabia plays in winners cup, Rossoblu could play in Medalists. But this is not about a specific team, its about the system itself.
Diabolik67 (20:42, 8 JAN)
Aptul (21:39, 8 Gennaio)

Harri, here you are wrong. Basarabia plays in winners cup, Rossoblu could play in Medalists. But this is not about a specific team, its about the system itself.

completely agree .....
Harrissonsml (20:42, 8 JAN)
Aptul I was wrong two times.

Rossoblu wouldnt be on a international competition, even that he was on diabolik place, because of Basarabia :)
Harrissonsml (16:48, 8 JANEIRO)

Or he could be on 3 and take off someone elses spot on CE or BLK...

My second comment was about something that happened before. But mitaka sayed to me (some minutes ago), that it not happens anymore. So, nevermind about it :P
Harrissonsml (20:45, 8 JAN)
About Daniele idea: it would kill the cup winners, right?

I think that is a fair proposal.

New international cup: slots assigned following only the criterion of the number of active teams per league. 1 qualified for every 10 teams per league (rounded down) minimum 2 teams per league. For example currently Italy 10, other leagues 2. In my opinion the teams relegated directly (not through play-out) from the national top division should not be entitled to a place in international competitions, to the advantage of the teams participating in the second division championship, in case of more eligible teams, the number of points and goal difference will be looked at

I would change only it. I can agree with the 6th goes to a international competition.
But a team that play the play-offs, that is directly relegated or the second divisions should not be rewarded with a spot on international major cups.
Daniele (21:51, 8 JAN)
yes Harrissonsml in my idea no more cup winners tournament

About the third international competition it's just a minor cup to give satisfaction and a little bit of glory points to those club, especially from Italy, that according to what some managers more expert than me say, they are disadvantaged to be in the strong italian league, I understand that it's weird a cup with second division teams but it's hard to arrange a third wide cup without including those especially for Italy league that has more or less 110 active teams and each division has only 12 teams. The real, important cups are the champions and medalists, the third one it's just to try to rebalance the opportunities between so different leagues about the number of teams
Diabolik67 (22:06, 8 JAN)
Daniele

una domanda ... perchè togliere la coppa coppe? ...
Daniele (11:48, 9 JAN)
Diabolik67, simply coz it's already a name on paper but it actually doesn't exist as now half of the teams don't hold the title of national cup champion and if, as in my proposal, the number of participants in the champions cup is enlarged, they will be even less; in short it's a non-sense trophy and it would be even more. In any case the idea is born and died coz Mitaka isn't interested on having not league champions on ch.lea.cup, that I don't consider right coz the cup is to determine the strongest among the stronger it's the elite/premium cup, if you eliminate some teams coz ranked second and beyond you eliminate strong teams and competitiveness, especially if you have just eight leagues, more competitors more fun, we need to be more open minded